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CitySolver
CitySolver  
7/1/2014 7:36:35 AM
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Firefighters etc
Hi Amy, love your worrying but witty remark about firefighters being endangered. I agree that tech bubbles can not solve social problems alone. They are great tools for getting liek minded people together, but often great ideas come from conversation in person, realisations jointly come to over lunch, on the back of a napkin! Real debate and community will never be destroyed but it could be diminished by not getting tech tools to work in tandem with real people, not just theoretical online groups that people can join and then leave in an instant with no face to face guilt needed.

PeterJ
PeterJ  
6/29/2014 2:27:22 PM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: The Human Face
Very true - real involvement in this process is very limited. This is evident in polling about important issues affecting communities/citites/states. Many people identify problems/what is wrong, but there is less willingness to become engaged in the process beyond the crticism.

PeterJ
PeterJ  
6/29/2014 2:24:20 PM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: The Human Face
I agree, Kim, however being from a busines background and not a planning one, I think about the complexity of using the focus of an evolving community to predict the needs of the future. It's really a difficult task. I look at my own state and its cities, how the make-up of thse cities has changed in my lifetime - and I don't think that could have been anticipated years ago. 

Resurgent phoenix
Resurgent phoenix  
6/29/2014 2:11:52 PM
User Rank City Slicker
Re: The Human Face
Does your government have community meetings out in areas such as local comm centers? Does your government have a process to collect the residents position? Do they have a process to inter grate responses into solutions or communicate why the suggest could not be implemented. It would be nice to give all residents a voice without creating a larger bureaucracy.

Amy Rogers Nazarov
Amy Rogers Nazarov  
6/27/2014 2:52:11 PM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Social cohesion
You're right, kq4ym. Devices on the IoT in a vacuum only go so far. To the extent they will actually let us know when the bus is coming/the garage door is open/the poker chip is being illegally removed from the casino/the best route is going north, not west/the firefighter has been inside the burning house for too long and is endangered - THAT is when people's lives will be truly enhanced in some way, whether longer-lived or healthier or safer or more efficient.

NewDream
NewDream  
6/27/2014 10:55:38 AM
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Re: Social cohesion
Just think of the great opportunity for us to meet up with old friends if our smart devices would alert us to their presence.

You are walking down the crowded street, and your phone says, "Hey! Take a break from this mess and stop off for a drink with Sam. You haven't seen him in 20 years."

"But I hate Sam. I have carefully avoided every event he attended just so I wouldn't see..."

"Here he is! Gosh it's great ot get you two together again.

"Wait. What are you doing?

"Stop that! Showing your fists is impo-

"NO! NO! Hitting is even worse! I'm notifiying the police."

Perhaps there will be a few glitches to work out...

NewDream
NewDream  
6/27/2014 10:49:17 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: The Human Face
I experienced ths same thing at the Fort Lauderdael City Council meeting I attended a couple of months back. I was determined to go back again and again to raise my voice over and over until they listened...

But as it has turned out I always seem to find something better to do on meeting nights. I certainly want to participate, and want to make a difference. But with the cards stacked against me it is hard to muster the initiative to ride my bike a couple miles, wait through interminable but meaningless speeches, and finally get up to give them three minutes of my thoughts which they will nod at yet discard at the first opportunity.

kq4ym
kq4ym  
6/26/2014 8:01:32 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Social cohesion
Perhaps the IoT should not be taken too literally as we expect to interact with stuff. What is needed of course is interactions with people. Using our gadgets and sensors to help us interact with others should be the real goal of the tools we'll be carrying and  and the data collection sensors we're passing on the street corners. Now that will be our new smart cities.

Amy Rogers Nazarov
Amy Rogers Nazarov  
6/25/2014 9:43:15 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Social cohesion
Hey Dave: Sigh. Well, it's not relegated to the so-called "younger generation," is it. I know 20-somethings that know when to say when, people who are super social in the old-fashioned sense of the word in that they know how to make conversation with another person standing in front of them. And I know 50-somethings that take comfort in the security of knowing that their device means they will always have something to do to look "busy," whether they are alone in a bar or are just feeling shy. I get the shyness thing, I really do - I often have to screw up my courage to enter into a party or room of other people. But I know I will regret it if I fall back on the device too readily, so I push myself to stick out my hand and say hello.  

Davedgreat2000
Davedgreat2000  
6/25/2014 9:08:07 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Social cohesion
@Amy, my wife does the same thing. She doesnt like talking with people on the phone, nor face to face, she would rather Text someone. I'm the opposite, I like talking with people more so face to face. Before social media people would talk to one another face to face even for just a couple of minutes, today you see the Phone Zombies walking with their heads lowered to view the screen on the phones...not paying attention to foot traffic and in some cases vehicle traffic.

Its not that difficult to just stop for a minute or two and say "Hi, my name is David, how are you today? I'm with such and such a company"? Etc etc. its that simple.

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