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Mexico City's Better Buses

Jordan Fraade, Writer & Editor
Thursday, March 20, 2014 14:30 EDT

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PeterJ
PeterJ  
4/29/2014 9:54:45 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Barcelona's rapid buses
Amy, my son and I used the bus routes in DC last fall and were very pleased with the convenience. I added the DC Metro app to my phone, had all of the scheduling and stop information -- it was great. An the surface level experience does add value!

PeterJ
PeterJ  
4/29/2014 9:50:42 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Gaining popularity in Africa and Latam
Therein lies the problem with a lot of us here in the U.S. - our tolerance/patience level is very thin, and although it's not always faster for us in bumper-to-bumper traffic, we are in control! As an aside, I think the correlation to increasing gas prices always gets us thinking about using public transportation, but unfortunately it seems to be short-lived.

PeterJ
PeterJ  
4/29/2014 9:39:39 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: City Buses
It is partly the coordinating transportation that offers challenges. Here in Rhode Island, we have two new commuter rail stops that hardly anyone is using. The state has been using incentives such as free parking and free service days. One of the problems is convenience of scheduling - the other being bus transportation to other parts of the City of Providence once you arrive.

Resurgent phoenix
Resurgent phoenix  
3/29/2014 7:56:52 PM
User Rank Burgher
Documentary on buses in Mexico City
I saw a documentary on this system and they stated it improved transportation for people without cars and reduced congestion.

Susan Leach
Susan Leach  
3/26/2014 9:48:13 AM
User Rank Blogger
Re: Barcelona's rapid buses
@Amy, the other appeal of buses over metro for me -- and this is purely anecdotal -- is that it feels like people interact more on a bus. Perhaps it's the sights out the window. If there's something interesting happening or it's a fabulous day, we all get to share and comment. 

The metro is efficient, but everyone is staring at their phones and trying to avoid eye contact. 

And I agree with you, these BRTs in Mexico City sound like the best of both. 

Amy Rogers Nazarov
Amy Rogers Nazarov  
3/25/2014 5:11:39 PM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Barcelona's rapid buses
Busriding in the city is always a trade-off, isn't it, between the interesting sights outside (as you allude to with your old Barcelona bus route, Susan) and the speed bump one gets by moving their travel underground. I always budget more time to get downtown when I take the D6 than when I board the Red Line here in DC. But I like passing Judiciary Square and getting a glimpse of Treasury here in DC.

It's neat to think that Mexico City is finding a way to combine greater speed with better views.

Davedgreat2000
Davedgreat2000  
3/25/2014 9:10:54 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: City Buses
Terry, You are right. i dont ride the bus much at all. everywhere i have to go is too far for bus rides well it would take me 2 hours to get to work via bus while it takes me 30 minutes by car.

Case study in how this transit corridor is working out for the city. I like the idea. Sometimes you need an advanced Degree just to figure out what all these studies mean.

Terry Sweeney
Terry Sweeney  
3/25/2014 3:01:52 AM
User Rank Blogger
Re: City Buses
You're thinking of the Orange Line, Davedgreat... and you're right -- it's been a series of misadventures and accidents between buses and cars on that route. It would make a great case study or thesis for an advanced degree in urban planning or publiic safety policy.

franfran
franfran  
3/24/2014 9:14:13 PM
User Rank Village Voice
Re: You are probably right on the buses.
Jordan Fraade

The second flor is not a bad idea, since in México city you can hardly have underground roads as it happens in cities elsewhere; the city is in a valley and in top of a lake, so the ground is not stable. In fact line 1 of the Metro is surfacing since the city sinks; this will also happen with older Metro lines.
The second floor has extremely poor design in terms of entrances & exits, altering otherwise fluid traffic areas. It mostly works, although now it has surfaced that they are allowed to increase the cost of each trip at will.
Essentially the problem around mobility in México city relates to poorly designed street level roads and police corruption; also the lack of a policy for parking spaces and the behavior of Mexican drivers, has created a difficult city, not yet like Caracas o Cairo, fortunately.

jordanfraade
jordanfraade  
3/24/2014 7:17:31 PM
User Rank Blogger
Re: You are probably right on the buses.
Do you mean the second floor on the Periférico Highway? I only saw it a couple times and don't really know much about how it operates, but it struck me as a bad idea.

The other thing I noticed about Mexico City highways was that very few of them were elevated. The ones I drove on, at least, were largely at street level. I suspect this has to do with the city being much older than the highway network (as opposed to, say, Atlanta or LA, where the city grew up alongside the highways). But it means that Mexico City can't just ty to build its way out of congestion by adding lanes.

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