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WiFi Offloading Comes to European Cities

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Toby
Toby  
8/26/2014 4:12:28 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: ISP
@Pablo: does the smarter wifi app provide a layer of protection by doing this? I was not aware that was a risk?

CitySolver
CitySolver  
8/25/2014 2:33:42 PM
User Rank Blogger
Transparency
Exactly this is an area where transparency is needed on your contract, and not just some small print, it needs to be clear exactly how offloading will or could effect the bill payer. 

kq4ym
kq4ym  
8/25/2014 9:28:36 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Hackers
The idea of wifi offloading is a great one for providers, saving lots of money I'm sure. But, I'm not convinced a great one for those home or businesses who are sharing their service. Presumably, one's monthly bill should be reduced if the carrier is "down grading" service but that's not going to happen. It may be that regulators might get involved and at least force service agreements to boldly point out what customers are agreeing to in the customary fine print.

CitySolver
CitySolver  
8/22/2014 3:40:53 PM
User Rank Blogger
Smarter Wifi
Smarter Wifi App. Will look into getting one too, sounds sensible. Thanks.

Pablo Valerio
Pablo Valerio  
8/22/2014 12:43:15 PM
User Rank Blogger
Re: ISP
"can a clever IT user hack into peoples accounts while they unwittingly access the residential hotspot?"

Interesting question. Actaully there is a lot of information about how retailers and ISPs can access user's data when they are connected to their WiFi hotspots.

One thing I never do is to install apps some public WiFi networks ask to use. It is like having unprotected sex!

The security present on smartphones and tablets should block any illegal access, but getting a bit of personal information is very easy. Any WiFi network can get the list of the other networks you connect to, and your MAC address, even if you don't login into the hotspot.

I use an app "smarter WiFi manager" that turns off WiFi on my smartphone when I'm not near my house, my office or another "known" location. That way I'm not broadcasting my MAC id and the credentials of my WiFi networks everywhere I go.

CitySolver
CitySolver  
8/22/2014 9:55:02 AM
User Rank Blogger
ISP
Thanks for the advice. I find it very interesting how this all works. Also what about security going the other way- Say someone accesses personal information using a hotspot, how easy is it for someone to tap into that and track thier surfing? ie, can a clever IT user hack into peoples accounts while they unwittingly access the residential hotspot?

Pablo Valerio
Pablo Valerio  
8/21/2014 12:55:25 PM
User Rank Blogger
Re: Hackers
@CitySolver, my recomendation is to buy your own router and not use the ISP equipment. You have the right to do so.

Some ISPs are giving free access to the hotspot network to their customers, that is a way of compensation.

Also the "guest" network is supposed to be isolated, but it uses the same router and basically is a form of security it could be compromised.

CitySolver
CitySolver  
8/21/2014 7:23:53 AM
User Rank Blogger
Hackers
Wow this has really blown my mind. So my mums router could be used by a total stranger and potentially hacked. With the increasing automation of household items such as heating as you mentioned, this is going to be a massive issue. I like the idea of offloading but surely the user should sign up to it- ie, You the customer get a 20% discount on your line rental for offering your router to be part of the offloading network. Doing this below the radar strikes me as very dangerous and totally unacceptable. I know that tech blurs the lines of public and private but this is getting into dodgy territory to say the least.

Pablo Valerio
Pablo Valerio  
8/20/2014 4:59:56 PM
User Rank Blogger
Re: Sneaky
Kim, this system has been around in the US for a while:

http://www.cablewifi.com/ 

And devices using hotspot 2.0 will offload to WiFi without user awareness.

It is happening everywhere!

Kim Davis
Kim Davis  
8/20/2014 4:40:21 PM
User Rank Staff
Sneaky
Of course, if it's in the contract, there's an argument that it's not underhand.  But this is like a website putting something about sharing your information in tiny font on a page nobody ever accesses.

Sneaky.  And raises some significant issues, as Pablo says.

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