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Barcelona Plans for Efficiency, Block by Block

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Pablo Valerio
Pablo Valerio  
3/11/2014 6:42:43 AM
User Rank Blogger
Re: Completion estimate
@Resurgent phoenix, I am not aware of the street lamps/smart parking connection. I will ask the city press office. Barcelona has different mobile apps for parking, and people can pay for metered slots directly from their phones. I know they have apps to show availability in the city's underground parking facilities.

 

Resurgent phoenix
Resurgent phoenix  
3/10/2014 9:56:22 PM
User Rank Burgher
Re: Completion estimate
Pablo, I was at an IT conference and they stated smart street lamps also work with smart parking in Barcelona , is that true? I enjoy reading your blogs and complement your Mayor. His feet are on the ground by feeding everyone who needs food. Yet, his head is in the cloud with remarkable tech already implemented and plans for more.

Pablo Valerio
Pablo Valerio  
3/3/2014 1:43:29 PM
User Rank Blogger
Re: Completion estimate
@arv, there are some technologies that do not change much. Think about smart meters; we are now installing a piece of technology that will be there for the nexr 15-20 years.

I remember a member of Barcelona city council saying that the infrastructure to deal with flooding in the city took 30 years to develop.

We need to invest in these projects and adapt as we deploy them.

bulk
bulk  
3/2/2014 11:24:35 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Completion estimate
@arv, I dont know all the stats, but I know from some casual reading that PVs have become more sensitive over the past few years and ROI has improved dramaticly, Though the sunshine might not be optimal with lower cost and higher senstivity it very well might be a worth while investment.  

arv
arv  
3/2/2014 10:01:30 AM
User Rank Village Voice
Re: Completion estimate
@bulk: Exactly, defining the blocks for entire city and than planning development around them is very good idea.  But what concerns me is spending on something like Solar Roofs.  The statistics of sunshine in spain is nearly about 30%-35% in a year.

bulk
bulk  
3/2/2014 1:41:55 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Completion estimate
@arv, I think that is a major challange with any major project, it may very well take longer to implement than the tech will be cutting edge for. To me that is where it has to be balanced out between long term value and up front cost. Something doesnt need to be cutting edge to add value in the long run. 

mejiac
mejiac  
2/28/2014 11:31:12 PM
User Rank Village Voice
Re: Completion estimate
@Arv,

I agree and disagree,

I agree that projects that take up 10-15 years might later be seen as old fashion.... but when we're in the context of urban development, 10-15 is actually pretty fast, and I'm speaking from the point of view of a home buyer.

10-15 years in the purchase of a home, and you're barely scratching the surface, so for a project to kick off, develop and deliver in that time framce is actually pretty good what my perspective.

mejiac
mejiac  
2/28/2014 11:28:46 PM
User Rank Village Voice
Re: Cost sharing
@Pablo,

Wow....great article!!

"The plan calls for creating blocks where consumers' energy needs are analyzed and compared with available alternatives in order to improve efficiencies. Another aim of the plan is to develop an energy use map for all of Barcelona based on these newly renovated blocks."

This is huge!! I mean, this could easilly redefine the way urban development is done, from top to bottom.

This is definitly something that is worth monitoring to see how it goes

arv
arv  
2/28/2014 12:08:11 PM
User Rank Village Voice
Re: Completion estimate
@bulk:

What I see a concern is, these kind of high magnitude projects take up 10-15 years to shape-up, say from now till 2025 or 2030.  With the advances in technology soon the infrastructure would seem old fashioned and spending huge now will take us nowhere.  We will have to keep spending even after 10-15 years.

But if these kind of projects shape-up in 3-5 years then we will have some time to use the existing resource and spend again after few years.

bulk
bulk  
2/28/2014 11:48:22 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Completion estimate
@arv, I wouldnt doubt that at all. it almost seems that it was designed with being a future smart city in mind...

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