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Terry Sweeney
Terry Sweeney  
7/8/2014 9:57:05 PM
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Re: Bah, FIFA
it is a little shocking that there isn't more (any) regulatory oversight of entities like FIFA, the IOC, or the committees that stage world's fairs/global expositions. Billions getting thrown around, and the potential for corruption is obviously enormous. I think you nailed it with the "over-promise, under deliver" comment.

Susan Leach
Susan Leach  
7/3/2014 11:29:21 AM
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Re: Bah, FIFA
The Olympic bids suffer the same issue of overpromising and underdelivering. One driving concern apparently is that these big sporting events destroy the environment, so if bid cities offer appealing "sustainable" proposals (more than required) then that pushes them ahead of the crowd. The trouble is there seems to be no accountability or enforcement. If the host country falls short in its sustainable promises, or any promises for that matter, there seem to be no consequences. 

Rio's Olympic pitch -- "Green games for a blue planet" -- is headed down that same road by all accounts.... 

Kim Davis
Kim Davis  
7/3/2014 10:50:56 AM
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Re: Bah, FIFA
I have limited faith in Qatar too, but the architects involved in the main stadium are reputable. Researching my slideshow on Brazil's other cities, I did come across great plans which were unfinished by the time the World Cup rolled around, and what their future is now, who knows?

Susan Leach
Susan Leach  
7/2/2014 11:21:40 AM
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Re: Bah, FIFA
Hi Terry, glad to have your healthy skepticism in the discussion. You're probably right, although I like to think the design pitch isn't total greenwashing. Maybe it's more that zero-carbon footprints are a fad these days.

Anyway, re FIFA's lack of transparency, they seem to be in good company unfortunately. A little too much money swashing around these sports associations.... 

Susan Leach
Susan Leach  
7/2/2014 10:46:42 AM
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Re: The little guys..
an effort of this magnitude would require massive labor capacity

Exactly! The International Labour Organization estimates they would need to recruit a million extra laborers.

Susan Leach
Susan Leach  
7/2/2014 10:41:30 AM
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Re: The little guys..
Peter J, if you mean by "mega-economy" event that it's part of a much larger economic boom for Qatar, then yes, you're right.

There's a huge development program underway to the tune of $220 billion over the next decade, which will include a new airport, new metro system, new national rail system, new port, plus thousands of new hotel rooms. It's pretty impressive.

The World Cup is the jewel in the crown, but it's not the endgame. The larger goal is to turn Doha, the capital, into a global hub. 

Susan Leach
Susan Leach  
7/2/2014 10:33:33 AM
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Re: Modular Construction
It's true, Resurgent phoenix, there's a long history of forced labor in building magnificent structures -- think the pyramids. But there's really no excuse in the 21st century. And that's the crux of the Amnesty report. They say the abuses are widespread and include squalid accommodation, excessive work hours, lower wages than promised or no wages at all, and confiscated passports so the workers can't leave the country.

Terry Sweeney
Terry Sweeney  
7/1/2014 4:23:57 PM
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Re: upgrades
As Susan notes in her blog, local temps can reach 50 degrees C/122 degrees F. At least for external surfaces or structures, Qatar is highly unlikely to (re-)use any bricks if this ridiculous award is actually allowed to stand.

Terry Sweeney
Terry Sweeney  
7/1/2014 4:20:05 PM
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Bah, FIFA
This green monikor is laughable on its face; only a fool or a fat-n-sassy FIFA official would attempt to defend all of Qatar's audacious claims.

And based on some of the FIFA statements and actions emanating from Brazil in recent days and weeks, a big shakeup is overdue at the world's governing body for football. Corrupt, inept, politically tone deaf -- there's plenty to dislike about how this organization conducts itself and administers international rules.

CitySolver
CitySolver  
7/1/2014 7:06:06 AM
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Yes, I think transportation is a good place to focus investment, at least it wont be redundant weeks after the event. Other stuff like the stadia must either by built and reused by the city or designed so the components can be reused for something else. For instance, reuse trusses in other buildings, bricks reclaimed, wood reused or chipped. Lots of potential with a bit of imagination!

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