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Alan Reiter
Alan Reiter  
4/1/2014 4:08:14 AM
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Re: Overnight trips
Hi Resurgent phoenix,

Lots of people have used long distance buses and trains overnight to avoid paying for a hotel room. Stow and Go would indeed be useful for people who are doing this. I don't think Stow and Go will be popular around the country, but I'd like to see that possibility.

Good idea, Resurgent phoenix!

Alan Reiter
Alan Reiter  
4/1/2014 4:04:43 AM
User Rank Blogger
Re: Night Soil....
Hi Toby,

I've read articles about using excrement for various uses, too, and I wonder if it makes sense to try this with public toilets.

Susan Leach
Susan Leach  
3/26/2014 10:03:22 AM
User Rank Blogger
Re: Night Soil....
Toby, the pig farmers here are doing something similar to what you suggest -- dumping tons of pig waste at the local power plant, where the heat from electricty generation turns the dung into dried fertilizer pellets. 

The catch is that the whole operation was heavily subsidized and the government just cut funding. So now there will be piles of pig waste with nowhere to go...

Resurgent phoenix
Resurgent phoenix  
3/25/2014 7:49:51 PM
User Rank Burgher
Overnight trips
You know one could sleep all night on a train to New York. Utilize the stow and go facility, have a clean day trip in New York and sleep on the train or bus going home. It would be cheaper than a hotel.... If one is daring enough to sleep on the train or......whatever.

Kim Davis
Kim Davis  
3/25/2014 4:51:13 PM
User Rank Staff
Re: Night Soil....
You mean someone should pay us for using public toilets?

Toby
Toby  
3/24/2014 7:26:41 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Night Soil....
So what is it about the abundantly rich fertilizers that people deposit daily into various systems that makes it impossible to monetize them? Surely the outflow could be quickly processed and sold onto to lawn fertilizer companies etc for a profit? I was somewhere recently where they burn dung for cooking fuel....now that is pretty worthy.

Alan Reiter
Alan Reiter  
3/19/2014 12:47:29 AM
User Rank Blogger
Re: It's a bargain at $15
Hi kq4ym (Don),

I agree. Paying for a clean bathroom seems to be crazy.

I'm not saying most people will pay for Stow and Go, but a certain percentage will. People like broadcast journalists, high end sales people, wealthy shoppers, etc.

Yes, cities should provide clean facilities, but many cities can't afford it. As for business establishments, it costs time and money to ensure their bathrooms are clean and well stocked. Also, neither government nor businesses provide storage facilities and it's very rare that showers are available -- and businesses generally won't offer this for free.

As with many things, some people with money will consider it worthwhile.

kq4ym
kq4ym  
3/17/2014 10:37:54 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: It's a bargain at $15
To someone reading this outside a large city, it seem almost a joke that folks would have to get a membership and pay from $6-8 a day to use clean restrooms. Somehow this service, convenient facilities, just seems to be something that should be a public service either by local government or business establishments.

It shall be interesting to see how long-lived this enterprise turns out. 

Alan Reiter
Alan Reiter  
3/17/2014 3:52:57 AM
User Rank Blogger
Re: This is New York
Hi Kim,

The diagrams of Stow and Go's proposed facilities show a central lounge area, but I guess we'll have to wait until the first one opens to see how "clubby" it is. From the Web site, it doesn't seem as if it will be promoted as anything but a brief rest stop rather than any longer term hangout. Just a lounge to rest for five or ten minutes after traipsing around New York, and then heading out again into the fray. 

Alan Reiter
Alan Reiter  
3/17/2014 3:47:19 AM
User Rank Blogger
Re: It's a bargain at $15....oh really?
Hi Kim,

Alas, I haven't been to London or elsewhere in Europe for some years, so I don't have any current knowledge. Freestanding municipal toilets weren't around when I traveled there.

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