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Venks
Venks  
1/8/2014 1:35:34 PM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: home cameras
One of the problems with capturing huge amounts of data is being able to efficiently analyze all of it in order to obtain useful information.

Thanks @Alan for your reply. I believe there are various ways to handle such information. Such data can be handled/deleted after some specific amount of time is passed by like say for example, 1 month or 3 months or 6 months etc. If crime doesn't come into light within such timeframe then such data can be deleted. As far as analyzing such data, there are tools which help us to simplify those things.

Alan Reiter
Alan Reiter  
1/2/2014 1:02:42 PM
User Rank Blogger
Re: Hmmm
Hi Mary,

I haven't seen notices of expired certificates very often, and I don't remember ever seeing them on a police department site (not that I've looked at many police sites). Regardless, the police should be especially careful about this because I suspect a fair number of people already are spooked when having to consult a police site -- and they don't need the added confusion of whether they've accessed a "bad" site that could infect their computer.

Mary Jander
Mary Jander  
1/2/2014 12:52:09 PM
User Rank Staff
Re: Hmmm
Wow, @Alan -- that IS funny and sad about the expiration on the site. Any website for any public agency should know better. This is the kind of thing that continues to give public service IT a bad name.

Alan Reiter
Alan Reiter  
1/2/2014 12:22:45 PM
User Rank Blogger
Re: Hmmm
Hi Mary,

All the police departments that offer video camera registration have Web sites with sections for registering. It's possible that it can be done at the station, human-to-human, although I assume the police would rather they don't have to deal with the paperwork. Still, if the police are going door-to-door telling residents about the program (and at least some are), perhaps they can sign up residents on the spot.

Speaking of police department Web site safety -- and you'll love this -- whenever I access the Philadelphia Police Department's SafeCam Web section, up pops an alert on my Windows Chrome browser that says. "This site's security certificate has expired!.... This means Google Chrome cannot guarantee that you are communicating with safecam.phillypolice.com and not an attacker."

I assume you've seen these sorts of alerts before, but it's rather funny -- and sad -- that the Philadelphia police have an expired certificate. I was going to include that in my blog, but I didn't have enough space. As if residents might not be spooked enough when they go to register!

Mary Jander
Mary Jander  
1/2/2014 12:11:17 PM
User Rank Staff
Re: Hmmm
Ah, gotcha, Alan. For some reason, it seemed to me that registering a CCTV with the police involved a visit to the station. If it must be done online, then even more reason why those signing up might let attention drift and stop caring about what they're divulging.

It's not as though the cops are like a regular online portal, after all. One might believe it's safer.

Alan Reiter
Alan Reiter  
1/2/2014 12:06:24 PM
User Rank Blogger
Re: Hmmm
Hi Mary,

Those are good points, and I can't believe you're even close to my level when it comes to being cynical! Also, I'm not a semi-misanthrope for nothing!

When registering to be part of the database, I don't know if a cop can sign up a person. I suspect it has to be done online. That's the place for police departments to include lots of specific information. I haven't seen very detailed information about the ramifications on police Web sites, but I haven't gone through the process of registering.

Mary Jander
Mary Jander  
1/2/2014 11:59:06 AM
User Rank Staff
Re: Hmmm
Well, I may be cynical, but how many of us are asked the questions about data privacy on a daily basis -- as we are registering for various services and sites on the Web? Yes, having a policeman in your face asking about data privacy may be more compelling and get people to ask more questions, but then again, maybe not. Cops are intimidating; some people may say yes just to be on the "good side."

Alan Reiter
Alan Reiter  
1/2/2014 11:34:10 AM
User Rank Blogger
Re: Hmmm
Hi Mary,

I would assume that many people who register for the police's video camera database would at least ask some basic questions. And if the the police will be allowed to automatically download the videos and even take control of the camera, people should ask what's going on.

I don't know, though, whether people who don't ask to be included in the database will care. Perhaps it will take a newspaper article or TV report about potential or real abuses to get people concerned about this.

Mary Jander
Mary Jander  
1/2/2014 10:04:17 AM
User Rank Staff
Re: Hmmm
Indeed, Alan, I think many of us are too busy looking at our FB pages and trying to keep up with work and other tasks to care whether the cops are storing our data. That's probably sad, because one morning we make wake up to find another Ed Snowden telling us things we don't want to hear.

Alan Reiter
Alan Reiter  
1/1/2014 11:42:54 PM
User Rank Blogger
Re: Public Safety
Hi Resurgent phoenix,

Thanks for the plot summary. Perhaps I'll rent it or get it from the library.

At least police department video camera databases don't foster that type of corruption! Hopefully, these databases will be useful for the police and residents.

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