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bulk
bulk  
2/7/2014 2:34:22 AM
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Re: Complicated issue
@Nicole, I think it really is a double edged sword, you will want to know to keep your family safe, but you also want to respect the privacy of people in general. 

Was anyone from the list at the party?

Nicole Ferraro
Nicole Ferraro  
1/31/2014 4:13:31 PM
User Rank Staff
Re: Complicated issue
"When I lived in the US we could easily check the sex offender registry to see if there were any convicted sex offenders in the area and who we should keep an eye out for. Though a system like that raises many ethical questions as well."

I was at a party over the summer and someone pulled out his iPhone to look up how many sex offenders were living nearby. (Because nothing says "party!" like scrolling through the sex offender registry iPhone app!) It was chock full of photos of these people and information about their various offenses.

Obviously it's good to know if you're living near someone who is potentially very dangerous. However, for those who've been rehabilitated and are trying to get their lives back together, I'm sure it's very hard to be a presence on such a list.

stillalive
stillalive  
1/30/2014 7:38:24 AM
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Re: Complicated issue
kq4ym, the US system, taken in total and as you describe it looks excellent, but does everybody making an enquiry have to rergister who they are and who their employer is? And can anyone check that there is no erroneous data held on them? This would prevent some of the voyeurism, and could be extended to a non-disclosure, direct or indirect, for commercial interest, with statutory and severe penalties.

In the UK we have a partial system in the small claims court registry and in the CRB checks that can be made by schools. churches, youth clubs and any other organisation dealing with children. Not so good as in the US but useful in that records any and all kinds of criminal offences are obtainable. Useful if you are looking at somebody who might drive a vehicle full of children but has driving offences that have fallen off the end of the licence itself, or somebody who may have to handle an account.

We  also need equal transparency in credit rating data because the financial system does not take the same care as the justice system over ensuring accurate identification and registering criminal use after a theft.

This said Rich's desire for a bit more trust and the ways of ensuring it are mine as well. And we should accept that repentance can be genuine and complete. 

richheap
richheap  
1/29/2014 2:05:43 PM
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Re: Complicated issue
Well, if we end up living next to each other and we both have criminal records then I'd happily trade the information for free. Seems a fair approach to a very unlikely situation.

bulk
bulk  
1/29/2014 11:52:37 AM
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Re: Complicated issue
@Rich, I would probably come in right around that same price point. 

and I would probably have similar interests depending on the person and my intereactions with them. 

Also as the father of a young child I would want to keep an eye out. 

When I lived in the US we could easily check the sex offender registry to see if there were any convicted sex offenders in the area and who we should keep an eye out for. Though a system like that raises many ethical questions as well. 

richheap
richheap  
1/29/2014 11:44:32 AM
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Re: Complicated issue
Interesting question, Bulk. I am a little more sensitive about some crimes given that I have a young child, so that will affect my price point. There are also variables such as how close I live to the person in question; how much we interact; whether they've been away for an extended period that I surmise is a period "inside"; and so on.

But let's say the situation is that I do a quick check on my straight-laced neighbour who I talk to regularly and I've never had any indication that he is anything other than happily married. I see him red flagged on the system, and it obviously makes me curious. I can't imagine I'd pay anything more than £20 to find out what he's been convicted of. It would make it more awkward in future having those conversations when we both end up taking the bins out at the same time.

I think I'd be most interested in the people who look normal but may have a dark secret. Perversely, I wouldn't be as interested in the violent weirdo that I cross the road to avoid because I have a good idea already that I should avoid him. There's definiely an element of voyeurism to this.

Or if I'm doing a search for a best man's speech and the groom's red flagged then I would either pay £10 for the info myself; or split it equally between who was on his stag do.

bulk
bulk  
1/29/2014 11:30:35 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Complicated issue
@kq4ym, great point, I think in the US privacy is looked at in a different light, and we assume that in a lot of situations there is none. 

bulk
bulk  
1/29/2014 11:29:02 AM
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Re: Complicated issue
@Rich,  what would be your price point? 

kq4ym
kq4ym  
1/29/2014 11:26:52 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Complicated issue
While European privacy issues are regulatedf a bit differently perhaps then in the U.S., most everyone here can find criminal records and arrest records online in many jurisdictionw without any controversy.

Even our small county has arrest records online including the charge and a photograph through the Sheriff's office and it's website. The county clerk's office has an online docket to look up what's happening or has happened in court for anyone you want to look up.

Before data waa placed online, most states had open record laws that allowed anyone to go to the courthouse and look at any record. Now, it's just a lot more convenient to go online.

richheap
richheap  
1/29/2014 11:09:34 AM
User Rank Staff
Re: Complicated issue
Thanks Bulk. I must admit that I'd probably have a cheeky look if there was a similar UK service, to find out if my neighbours had been charged for anything in the last five years. But would I then pay for the extra info if I saw they were red flagged? Hmmm... depends how much it costs. 

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