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Property Developers 'Get' Green Message

Rich Heap, Community Editor, Future Cities
Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:45 EST

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Resurgent phoenix
Resurgent phoenix  
1/27/2014 1:18:46 PM
User Rank City Slicker
Re: Nice progress? I'm sceptical
You are correct we must use a holistic approach. Thanks for putting things in perspective.

Resurgent phoenix
Resurgent phoenix  
1/27/2014 1:17:28 PM
User Rank City Slicker
Thanks
You know I heard of many of the things you mentioned but never thought of them being green. It is of life saving importance to improve working conditions in the textile industry after hearing of collapsing buildings and the lose of life. I also heard of a man planting Bamboo trees on the east cost of the United States.

sunshine
sunshine  
1/27/2014 8:15:27 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Nice progress? I'm sceptical
'How much does your building weigh?'  was posed by Buckminster Fuller to challenge architects to consider how efficient their design is in enclosing space with the minimum amount of materials.  Building materials use energy in production and transportation and therefore the less material used the less energy used. This does not deny the fact that some heavyweight materials may be beneficial in reducing 'in use' consumption, it is only highlighting the fact that there is more than one factor for producing a sustainable building. Another factor similarly ignored is the longevity of buildings, the longer they last the 'greener' they become. Compare the 'greenness' of seemingly profligate American gas-guzzlers in Cuba when they have been used for several decades, with the relatively short life of more fuel efficient cars in richer countries. 

We must have a holistic view of sustainability and until we use less our attempts at real sustainability will be useless.   

Susan Leach
Susan Leach  
1/27/2014 4:55:15 AM
User Rank Blogger
Re: Nice progress
Hi Resurgent phoenix, the textile industry is trying to reduce the number and the toxicity of the dyes used, the amount of pesticides needed to grow cotton (currently about 25 percent of global usage). There's also a big push to develop more sustainable fabrics from things like bamboo and manmade materials that can be recycled. Conditions for textile workers are getting a closer look after a string of recent tragedies in Bangladesh and Pakistan. Big chains are becoming more eco-conscious about their sourcing and manufacturing. 

It's really happening on all fronts and all levels of the industry and picking up momentum. And public awareness is a big part of it. 

Resurgent phoenix
Resurgent phoenix  
1/26/2014 7:55:27 PM
User Rank City Slicker
Re: Nice progress? I'm sceptical
Why does the weight of a building make a difference, excuse my lack of knowledge. I went on a tour in Chicago and they stated how some brick buildings were cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter and the designs used more natural light. If the building is heavy but has an energy efficient design for the location and climate why does the weight make a difference? Unless the ground is soft...

Resurgent phoenix
Resurgent phoenix  
1/26/2014 7:47:55 PM
User Rank City Slicker
Re: Nice progress
What are they doing in the textile industry to make things green?

sunshine
sunshine  
1/24/2014 1:31:57 PM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Nice progress? I'm sceptical
Yes it's good to see half the responses citing sustainability as a potential factor in choosing a building but it will all be about the bottom line and we're a long way off energy consumption being a major influence. It will be interesting to see if these responses get translated into many, or even any, really energy efficient new buildings being constructed.  For certain there is some energy reduction as technological improvements are introduced and statutory legislation is implemented. However progress in the UK is painfully slow. For many years there have been proposals for energy efficient buildings which have just not lived up to their claims.  Your photo shows some of these. In addition it is dependent on how the occupier uses the building, you only have to travel around central London late at night to see the vast number of commercial buildings with all lights on ..... they can't all be occupied by interns working 23 hour shifts!  We've been talking about the energy crisis for 30 years now and yet despite these new technologies we are not making the great strides needed to solve the problem of over-consumption.  

Buckminster Fuller asked the question over 50 years ago "How much does your building weigh?" I doubt that many Architects or developers consider that question or even understand the relevance of it in relation to sustainability.

richheap
richheap  
1/24/2014 10:49:04 AM
User Rank Staff
Re: Nice progress
It'd certainly be interesting to compare industries, Amy. We'll have a think about it and see what comes out. Cheers.

Amy Rogers Nazarov
Amy Rogers Nazarov  
1/24/2014 10:29:19 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Nice progress
To Susan's point, Rich, I would love to see you or another FC person write up something about industries' green rankings. Fashion is so closely affiliated with New York, London and Paris - I wonder how each of these epicenters of fashion would rank against one another in terms of greening?

DC has a nice green roof rebate program for residential, institutional and commercial building applicants They're certainly common in Europe, but they are taking hold here to the extent that city government is officializing such an offering. They used to be a very one-off kind of thing - this university building, that private home, etc. 

stotheco
stotheco  
1/24/2014 2:48:51 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: perception
I like how this is sort of turning into the Green Revolution, with more people going for green and actually going to lengths to make it happen. 

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