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What US Cities Teach Us About Cycling

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richheap
richheap  
12/26/2013 12:34:41 AM
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Re: Yeah, they'll mess up your hair
Thanks mejiac. Yes, a lot of this depends on the pave set by city leaders.

mejiac
mejiac  
12/24/2013 1:39:05 PM
User Rank Village Voice
Re: Yeah, they'll mess up your hair
@richheap,

I think the speed will be defined with the those that are involved.

If there's a mind set to accept change, things are planned accordingly and rolled out in a way that reduces resistance, than yes, things can get a speedy implementation.

 

richheap
richheap  
12/24/2013 1:21:12 PM
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Re: Yeah, they'll mess up your hair
Good point. It took Copenhagen 40 years to get where it is now so it isn't always a quick process, although some US cities are making these changes more quickly. Will it work or be too much change too quickly?

mejiac
mejiac  
12/24/2013 1:13:54 PM
User Rank Village Voice
Re: Yeah, they'll mess up your hair
@richheap,

As you very well pointed out in your article, it's a culture change that wil make the most impact.

Many groups will be advocates, and others will oppose, but like you mention, when good points are constantly being highlighted, people will slowly start accepting it, to do point that they'll think "why didn't we do this before?"

Mary Jander
Mary Jander  
12/17/2013 2:14:15 PM
User Rank Staff
Re: Fear of cycling
It probably points to too much traffic, period. Each city must come to grips with how best to avoid accidents of any kind.  In the meantime, I think I'll avoid cycling in those cities that seem most risky -- like London or NYC.

sunshine
sunshine  
12/17/2013 2:03:35 PM
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Re: Fear of cycling
Mary, you are by no means alone but what a terrible situation we have got ourselves into when we fear cycling in our cities.  We do not fear walking to the same extent yet statistically (depending on the criteria you use) pedestrians are as likely to be killed or injured as cyclists.  In UK in 2011 pedestrian deaths increased by 12% (more than for cyclists) but there was not an equivalent increase in fear of walking. I guess that the closer proximity to motor and heavy goods vehicles and the attitude of motorists increases the fear of cycling; that and the huge amount of publicity given to cycle fatalities compared to that given to the far greater number of pedestrian deaths.    

Mary Jander
Mary Jander  
12/17/2013 9:29:32 AM
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Re: Yeah, they'll mess up your hair
Well, your fear of striking a cyclist underscores my fear of biking in cities.

I think the fears cyclists have sometimes drive them (so to speak) to the sidewalks, where there are more dangers to pedestrians from errant bikes -- another urban danger.

richheap
richheap  
12/17/2013 4:48:41 AM
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Re: Yeah, they'll mess up your hair
Driving in congested cities is scary for me too, Mary. It's mainly because I'm worried about knocking over a cyclist. I hope that makes me a responsible driver (although I'm sure many would argue that's an oxymoron).

richheap
richheap  
12/17/2013 4:37:35 AM
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Re: Yeah, they'll mess up your hair
"So it's not about helmets, it's about better understanding between drivers and those using more active forms of transport..."

You're right, sunshine. This is the Holy Grail. I agree that helmets aren't the solution to all of our cities' cycling ills. But equally, I don't think see how reducing the helmet fear factor and putting more helmetless cyclists onto crowded roads is the way to help improve this understanding; and I don't see how helmets distract cyclists from safe cycling technique. 

Sounds to me like better infrastructure is needed to both help tackle this fear factor and help foster better understanding, as motorists and cyclists won't be annoying each other as much by sharing the same road space.

Mary Jander
Mary Jander  
12/16/2013 3:52:39 PM
User Rank Staff
Re: Yeah, they'll mess up your hair
It scares me just to think of what happened to you, Terry -- or what might have happened. Horrible.

Glad you're still cycling after it all.

Me, I'll take it a bit more slowly when it comes to city cycling. Maybe I'll pass entirely. Driving in today's congested city areas is stressful enough for me right now.

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