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City Managers Get Fat Checks & Big Questions

Mary Jander, Managing Editor, Future Cities
Thursday, December 19, 2013 12:08 EST

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mejiac
mejiac  
1/2/2014 12:54:43 PM
User Rank Village Voice
Re: How uncommon, really?
@Resurgent,

Thank you for your feedback,

Hopefully things will keep improving so that the gap between wages is more fare and accurate.

Resurgent phoenix
Resurgent phoenix  
12/30/2013 8:25:44 PM
User Rank City Slicker
Re: How uncommon, really?
In this time of economic hardship many City policies are changing. Employee benefits are decreasing, salaries studies result in the implementation of comparable salary/wage payments. Ordinances are changing to combat loopholes that allow inflated salaries. Laws are changing. As a result some of the top earners are line up with others. Some of the lower paid workers are experiencing increases in wages.

mejiac
mejiac  
12/26/2013 4:30:38 PM
User Rank Village Voice
Re: How uncommon, really?
@Terry,

Sadly these types of situations is not uncommon around the world, it's more like in some places is more obvious than in others.

Many third world countries suffer from very pronounced levels of inbalance between municipal salaries and the rest...and many times no one is held accountable since it's the entire system that would need to be revised.

I guess it's only after someone calls it out, or the media gets a glimpse of it, that things change (because they got out)

Terry Sweeney
Terry Sweeney  
12/23/2013 3:25:10 PM
User Rank Blogger
How uncommon, really?
My bet is if you scratched the surface in Texas, Florida or New York -- places with lots of independent municipalities -- you'd see a lot fo the same sort of abuses that lead to big cashouts like the guy in Buena Park. They may not be pulling down his salary, but city employees routinely benefit from double-dipping and/or continuing to work as a contractors or part-time employees even once they've officially retired.

Like it or not, these practices (at least right now) are all prefectly legal.

And thanks for pointing out the situation in Bell where some of the most egregious municiapl fraud in generations was perpetrated on a working class city that could ill afford $1 million+ salaries of its top leaders, not to mention the loans and extras they were awarding themselves.

Mary Jander
Mary Jander  
12/23/2013 11:34:19 AM
User Rank Staff
Re: Lack of checks
Yes, even the crossing guards are listed in several cities I checked. It can make for boring reading, but I think it's better to have too much information in this instance than to be selective, even if there may be great reason to choose some salaries to post instead of others.

Nicole Ferraro
Nicole Ferraro  
12/23/2013 11:25:53 AM
User Rank Staff
Re: Lack of checks
I would say you draw the line at Commissioners and up, as so many lower level government employees earn such small salaries... but I do see what you're saying, Mary. They're all people who are paid by the taxpayer, so I understand the idea that all of their salaries should be visible.

Mary Jander
Mary Jander  
12/23/2013 10:34:23 AM
User Rank Staff
Re: Lack of checks
It's great to think about the public knowing the salary figures ahead of election time. But realistically, that doesn't happen. How many times have we heard about citizen's rising up only after the damage has been done and the huge salary payouts already made?

 

Mary Jander
Mary Jander  
12/23/2013 10:33:01 AM
User Rank Staff
Re: Lack of checks
I disagree with you, Hazel and Nicole. I think there's plenty of room on the Web for every city employee's salary. The cities cited here have everyone online; you can search selectively or download a spreadsheet if you need to.

Otherwise, where do you draw the line? Also, don't forget how much overtime has sometimes accrued to lower-paid employees like firemen and police. That's fine, but the public should see that, too.

Hazel
Hazel  
12/23/2013 3:52:18 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Lack of checks
I agree with @kq4ym. I think what we need here is greater transparency. That way, people won't cry foul only after whatever misdeeds have been done. They will have to find a way to justify their over inflated salaries even before they get it.

Hazel
Hazel  
12/23/2013 3:45:44 AM
User Rank Urban Legend
Re: Lack of checks
I agree with Nicole. If every government employee's salary records would be made available online, there would just be too many and the ones farther down aren't the ones you're really interested in anyway at this point.

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