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NYC Fails to Catch a Carbon-Free Cab

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Mary Jander
Mary Jander  
12/5/2012 4:32:19 PM
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Re: Disappointing
Have to say I agree with you on the horses, Nicole. At some point, it's time to let go of old habits and make room for something better.

Nicole Ferraro
Nicole Ferraro  
11/28/2012 4:16:27 PM
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Re: Disappointing
I understand that, and I understand that the fact that they're "iconic" is very much the issue here. But at some point, some politician is going to come along and use reason and say enough is enough. I'd just rather get there sooner than later. There's so much to see and do in New York. The horses are hardly our main draw. People would forget about them quickly.

Ha, this topic makes me so mad!

Mary Jander
Mary Jander  
11/28/2012 2:55:18 PM
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Re: Disappointing
Agreed on the horses, Nicole. But the cultural symbolism of those Central Park rides is nearly a century old and it will be tough to overcome and replace. Still, I believe many feel as we do.

PeterJ
PeterJ  
11/28/2012 1:50:22 PM
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Re: Cash for Guzzlers
Yes they do! We often talk about win-win solutions, but I think it can happen if the right inducements are part of the equation.

Lesthertod
Lesthertod  
11/28/2012 12:19:57 PM
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Re: Cash for Guzzlers
Perhaps they could start a program where the new licenses can only be EVs.

Here the Power supplier (the only company in Mexico, because it's government funded) has somehow a "promotion" if you give them your old, non-ecofriendly, power-waster fridge, they change it for a brand new one with less power consumption and more environmental friendly. Perhaps the taxis should think on a similar solution. Incentives work everytime!

Nicole Ferraro
Nicole Ferraro  
11/28/2012 10:09:23 AM
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Re: Disappointing
Don't even get me started on the horse and buggy situation here. I will praise the day when those things are gone. It's absurd, and the horses are clearly miserable. Let's stop romanticizing an era in which this was the only way to get around and move on with our lives. The animals can be set free to live in habitats where they belong. The city can stop smelling like horses. And we can stop fearing another situation where one of these poor horses takes off in a mad dash through the city to escape its horrid life.

This is an area where Mayor Bloomberg and I disagree.

PeterJ
PeterJ  
11/28/2012 10:03:19 AM
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Re: greener is more cost effective, no?
I think this highlights some of the regulatory and protective issues that complicate the ability to facilitate change. It's not always the bureaucracy, but private financial motives that come into play and hinder us.

PeterJ
PeterJ  
11/28/2012 9:58:27 AM
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Cash for Guzzlers
I have read previously about the taxi licensing system in NYC and the value of those vehicle licenses for resale. I'm wondering now about potential repurchase of those licenses by the city/other entities to rebalance the number of older vehicles/replacement with carbon-free cabs?

Mary Jander
Mary Jander  
11/28/2012 9:57:42 AM
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Re: Disappointing
Pedicab? Horrible way to go as far as I'm concerned -- unless you're looking to be trotted around Central Park or something. In terrific weather. That said, horse and buggy have their attractions for tourists, too.

Me? I'd prefer a train. It's faster and safer.

Mary Jander
Mary Jander  
11/28/2012 9:56:08 AM
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Re: Disappointing
"most of the time the ones who oppose just want to be part of the decision."

How true, Lesthertod! Dialog is tough to achieve. First, you need to get all the stakeholders together. Perhaps the stakeholders here weren't consulted enough. Perhaps unions played a role based on a perception that decisions were being made without consideration of their economic realities. Whatever the case, I hope the conversation can begin for NYC toward more constructive solutions.

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