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5 Main Takeaways From NYC's 'Vision Zero'

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CitySolver
CitySolver  
2/25/2014 12:44:52 PM
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speed
Interesting point. I assume therefore that speed is not the main cause of accidents. Maybe a big one is the effect heavy traffic has on pedestrians trying to run across intersections on busy days and similarly drivers getting impatient and accelerating unnecessarily between lights to vent their own frustration at heavy traffic. It is mostly when I am late that I have near misses because we forget to be careful. Therefore better traffic management would go along way to help both pedestrians and drivers. This is where city tech comes in.

PostSandy
PostSandy  
2/21/2014 9:20:24 PM
User Rank Village Voice
25mph
Really, Mayor de Blasio? 25mph citywide limit? In NYC, all 5 boroughs? There are two driving speeds in Manhattan. During high traffic: 10 mph - brake, 10 mph - brake, repeat. You share your lane with at least one other car laterally at all times. Without traffic: the average speed is 50 mph, avenue or alley. When everyone speeds, you also speed, so you don't get hit. By the way, in the car insurance commercial where they count "one Mississipi, two Mississipi", it never happens in Manhattan.

Ok, that's a bit exaggerated. But 25mph citywide speed limit is just "funny". 

 

Nicole Ferraro
Nicole Ferraro  
2/21/2014 2:24:57 PM
User Rank Staff
Re: My prioritized list
By the way, I completely agree that collaboration is essential here... that probably stood out for me more than anything else. Street safety is about way more than traffic planning and law enforcement -- it requires the input and involvement of all groups. Local business owners are an important part of this discussion -- especially those that have already seen how adding pedestrian areas nearby, or bike share terminals and bike racks, increases their foot traffic and sales.

Nicole Ferraro
Nicole Ferraro  
2/21/2014 1:56:18 PM
User Rank Staff
Re: My prioritized list
Thanks, NewDream - I didn't intend for them to be in any specific order, however, I pretty much agree with the way you've prioritized these items. While I do think that speed needs to be reduced, I also feel that's something that can be taken care of, in part, with better street design. Making more room for cyclists and pedestrians and reengineering the streets will do more for lowering car speeds than changing the speed limit. However, I'm fine with the city making that change, too.

NewDream
NewDream  
2/21/2014 1:32:13 PM
User Rank Urban Legend
My prioritized list
I'm not sure if there is any implied order in the Vision Zero list. If 1 (collaboration) is the most important and 5 (law enforcement) the least, then amazingly enough I agree with those priorities. I'd put street design second, keep technology third, and relegate speeding to fourth though.

The key to my way of thinking is that the number of cars in the city needs to be reduced, the number of places they can go needs to be reduced, and once those steps are taken there won't be such a perceived need for law enforcment. In a city that does things like "stop and frisk" I am against increasing the power of the cops in any way whatsoever.

Collaboration is on top because for my vision of a reduction in private vehiclse in the city to work, there must be ever more convenient alternatives so that business owners as well as those who visit shops, restaurants, etc. are all able to thrive in the absence of their current manic affair with the car.

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